User talk:Weatherman22

Hi, welcome to John Peel Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Talk:John Peel 2003-09 page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Steve W (Talk) 23:58, 15 August 2009

12th Feb 1985
Weirdly I have just reached the 400 box tape for the 12th Feb 1985 show and I saw that you posted a portion of this show today!

The good news is that at least some of the missing section is on the 400 box tape so I'll be able to piece together a more complete version of this evening's show

watch this space

new tapes pages
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for adding the tapes pages. In case I wasn't clear on the page I made, it would go with the others to have T before the actual number for future 400 Box show tape pages (eg T500).

Can easily sort out the ones you've done so far, so don't worry about them.

Thanks again for your help and the shows.

Cheers,

Steve W 18:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for your message and sorting out the new pages. I've deleted the old ones.

Cheers,

Steve W 19:51, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

small thing
Hi again,

Sorry to keep jumping in with messages. One thing I noticed was about your artist links in sessions/tracklistings sections on date pages. It isn't really a problem to leave them as red (empty) links, which is the standard style on the wiki, if the pages haven't been created yet. We don't have so many artist pages, so empty links have the advantage of making blue ones (for artists who do have artist pages) stand out - so these can be updated as we go along in terms of plays on shows, etc.

It's not really a big deal, but just thought I'd mention it to try and keep things roughly the same across the whole site. It might be a bit confusing to see a bunch of blue links and try and click through to artist pages that doesn't exist yet.

This is just for future reference. Don't worry about going back over your previous pages. I can sort them out tomorrow (which is a holiday in these parts -yay!).

Cheers,

Steve W 20:08, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Mysterious
Not really sure what's going on with the blue links business, but thanks for sorting it out.

Cheers,

Steve W 10:54, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

blue links
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for your message on the mysterious blue links. Seems like it's a hyperlinks problem. Here's the input of Steve in Korea's (message on my talk page):

Hi Stuart If I could add my two pennies worth! When doing trcaklistings, I don't bother adding a hyperlink. I merely type double brackets around the artist name: if there is a page on the Peel Wiki, it turns blue. If not, it stays red. External links are single brackets. Hope this helps. so.it.goes.2512 04:03, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

(me again) I don't use hyperlinks either. Maybe just adding a link with square brackets will avoid the confusion.

Cheers,

Steve W 04:58, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

ps
Just noticed you did the tracklisting for the 18 May 1983 show. Many thanks for that - and seems like the links are all blue/red in the right places, so guess you sorted it all out anyway.

Cheers,

Steve W 05:02, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Kershaw
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for your message. If you just do the standard show date on that one for now, that sounds fine to me - and the page can always be moved later if that seems better.

Cheers,

Steve W 16:20, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Added a few pages
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks indeed for all the help on the wiki and also the latest 400 Box shows. I had a litle bit of time today, so just added the pages and links for the Peel ones. Thinking it over, maybe least confusion if we have the two Kershaw ones marked as such, even if one is sitting in for Peel. Have left these for the time being, to check this seems OK with you.

Cheers,

Steve W 12:35, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

1987
Many thanks indeed for sorting all these out. Really appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve W 16:13, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

format
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for thinking about the format. The reason for the "The" situation on band names is so the Artist category can have the artists listed alphabetically. On the other hand, we have relatively few artist pages at the moment, and stragglers can always be rounded up with redirect pages, so nothing's the end of the world.

Not a big deal, but one thing I was thinking might make things clearer is to have a hypen between "album" (or single or whatever) and the actual title. Also, if you're stuck on the name of an album, song title or label, you might want to try the Discogs, AllMusic or similar sites, although this can take a little time and other people can always help out with extra details.

Anyway, great to have you on board. No shortage of tracklistings to be done, so really appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Steve W 03:15, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

gigs, festivals, etc
Just noticed you mentioned on the 28 August 1990 page Peel's attendance at the Reading Festival that year. Great if you can include in the comments section any such talks of gigs, etc, that he goes to. Among assorted foolish schemes, I'm in the process of trying to put together a Gigography section. This is OK so far for the 60s, but a bit light elsewhere and I know he does mention all kinds of gigs in all kinds of shows, so great if these can be noted as tracklistiings are compiled. I can then whack them in the Discography and build that up a bit as well.

Steve W 04:22, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

starting a category
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for the message - and all your help on the wiki. Very much appreciated!

For the categories, all you need to do is click on the red link, then write in a few words - it won't save a blank page. For the years, I've been doing very minimal things (eg, "The year after 1993"), but feel free to do whatever you like.

In a way, the year category pages are only a shadow for the year pages in the Calendar. But categories can be useful if you just want to get a bunch of pages together and haven't got round to doing a "proper page" - eg, the Top Gear category - or maybe never will.

Actually, the categories are a bit of a shambles really (my fault) and the best way to navigate is from the menu. One day I'll try and sort everything out in a logical fashion...

Cheers,

Steve W 15:08, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Deleted
No problem - it is no more.

Cheers,

Steve W 04:28, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Belated merry Christmas
Hi Stuart,

Just to send you belated seasonal greetings. Thanks so much for all your help in these parts, including the recent Finnish Radio extravaganza. It's really great to get them up and much needed.

Not sure if you've seen it, but I've been putting together a proper calendar page for the On This Day section. Check it out via the Calendar section on the menu to see shows from your own birthday or whatever. Just updating the shows on the site at the moment (which are reflected on the front page on whatever day it is via templates) but looking to add a few other things - family stuff, articles, gigs, etc - to the individual pages as time goes by.

Anyway, hope you're having a good holiday.

Cheers,

(Steve W 03:18, December 26, 2009 (UTC))

finnish shows
Just to let you know I had a little go at updating the Planet Peel and John Peel Shows From Finnish Radio Pt. 4 pages to try and link to your recent new pages. Also added a John Peel Shows From Finnish Radio Pt. 1 page. Haven't done the other two pages (if you want to have a go at them - or correct any of the others).

Many thanks again for all the new pages for the Finnish shows - very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve W 04:48, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

thanks
Many thanks for your message and all your help on the various fronts. Looking forward to hearing more 400 Box material. Are the latest tapes all mixed up bits and pieces or just unidentified dates?

Cheers,

Steve W 02:40, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

planet peel etc
Thanks for your message. Yeah, I don't know if the Overseas shows section is a bit hidden away on the left menu and therefore the Finnish radio bit of the page is as well. No doubt this can all be sorted out in time and we can open up a proper section with pages for all the stations rather than just have a basic index link page. Lots of stuff like that to do....

Great to have more 400 Box stuff upcoming - looking forward to the Tony Blackburn track on the show you're doing at the moment!

Just in case you haven't noticed, perhaps could mention the relatively new On This Day Calendar page. Have tried to pull together all the shows so far, but would be great if you could cross-reference new tracklisting pages on the relevant day template of that calendar as well as the regular calendar year pages to try and keep things up to date as we go along.

Many thanks again for all your help. It's very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve W 08:17, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

otd calendar, editor
Many thanks for your message and pointing out my mix up on the two days on the OTD calendar. Had put the wrong template on the page and have sorted it out now.

To add a show to a day page, you need to change the template. To do this, go to the OTD month category at the bottom of the page. On the category page is a list of all the day pages and the template pages for those days. Go to the template page, add the show and save. This will then be reflected on the main day page (as well as on the front page on the actual day).

It's a bit complicated, but templates are the only way to get stuff showing up automatically on the front page as well. Non-show data I've left as to be added to just the day pages (ie, not on the templates, and therefore won't show on the front page.)

Anyway, great if you can add shows as we go along.

On the changes to the editor - yeah, I know there's a few problems. This isn't something I can change, as it's from Wikia, but assume it'll get ironed out in time. I usually use the source wikicode option.

Just downloading the latest 400 Box shows. Really looking forward to them. Many thanks!

Cheers,

Steve W 02:42, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks again
Many thanks indeed for adding to the OTD day templates for the last couple of 400 Box shows. It's very much appreciated and cool to see the pages build up as we go along.

One thing I should mention about the template pages is that the top (oldest) show shouldn't have a * sign next to it. It's just a layout thing I can't change for the front page, so I kept it for the whole calendar. If one is added, the layout on the related day page (and eventually the front page) goes a bit weird.

Many thanks again.

Cheers,

Steve W 04:54, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Stub removal
Thanks for your message, ongoing 400 Box shows, and else much else round here.

The Stub thing is a standard template on wikia. Probably the easiest way to remove - or add - is to check the "Source" code when editing. I normally add them at the top of a page, so it's pretty easy to find and remove them.

Or check out the code if you want to add one.

Cheers,

Steve W 02:13, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

16 October 1979
OK, sorted. Thanks for pointing it out.

Steve W 01:49, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

11 May 1999
Hi Stuart, thanks for fixing this one. It's customary for us to give the original author a chance to do it themselves, but seeing as this was anonymous, I guess it wouldn't have been done!

Best wishes

so.it.goes.2512 01:10, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

available
Hi Stuart,

Just wondering, are there current download links for the 128 versions you've been adding to the pages today?

As always, many thanks for all your work around here. I always get behind on everything, so great to have people helping out.

Cheers,

Steve W 08:02, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Many thanks for the quick reply. OK, got it. Cheers, Steve W 09:53, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

You found a working link? Weatherman22 13:13, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

no link
Sorry if there was any misunderstanding. Steve W 13:19, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re deletion
Hi Stuart, yes, only admin can delete pages. I got the hint after seeing you'd deleted all the content!!

I agree, I don't like having pages up without the audio to back them up, but sometimes it's unavoidable, in the case of historic shows that need a reference (1976 FF, anyone?)

Also, thanks for your appreciation of the 500 Box: glad somebody likes them. I have another four ready from Colin, but again I like to put the track listing and the link up at the same time, so they'll be a while yet.

Best wishes

Steve

so.it.goes.2512 03:07, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

1984
Just wanted to say many thanks for the 1984 comps. I downloaded the June one fine and it played no problem after adding the mp3 tag. Great to hear Come Back in there - as I remember hearing it played on the radio when I was revising for exams that summer.

Also, was wondering if you'd like to start a new page (called whatever you like) to get them all listed up together, as we have for other collections. I could then add the page to the left menu as well for easy access.

And many thanks also for all the continuing tracklistings.

Cheers,

Steve W 03:41, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

category
Great minds and all that!

The category page seems to have worked OK and is a good way to do it, as it will update automatically as you add the category to other pages.

Will add it to the mixtapes section in the menu.

Cheers,

Steve W 06:18, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Stuart
Hi Stuart

Many thanks indeed for ongoing 1991 and other listings. By chance I was just thinking about the guy who was namechecked for his Poptones t-shirt - think you're just getting up to that period.

On another matter, as you're one of our main contributors in these parts and I noticed you were just around, wondered if I could ask you what you think of a possible addition (or two) on the front page. You might see I've been messing around with the Test new front page today.

Main would-be additions are at the bottom right of the page - blog posts and Peel twitter feed. Not sure about the latter (could just have a link to the Peel twitter search page results in the menu), but like having stuff that's automatically updated to keep things fresh.

Probably a better add would be the blog posts. We haven't had a whole bunch as yet, probably because it's not obvious how to find or use the function, but think it could be an easy way for people to make comments, ask questions, etc. The message boards I set up as an alternative to the old forum don't seem much used and are on an external site, so it's a slight drag to check out the updates if people aren't really using it.

Any thoughts? Other suggestions?

Cheers,

Steve

front page
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the suggestions. Fades in Slowly is already up, but yeah, maybe one or two more might be good, as long as they're Peel-centered. Perfumed Garden is another one. Point on the blogs isn't so much for ongoing chat, although would be fine for that, but so we can have notices everyone can see easily and newcomers have an easy place for questions, etc.

Let me leave it a day or two and see what the other Steve thinks too.

Cheers,

Steve W 06:16, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

front page tester
Hi Stuart,

Just to check before I change the actual front page. What do you reckon - Test new front page?

Cheers,

Steve

27 July 1987
Hi Stuart, I just noticed that this show was misdated-not your fault at all, as the original files had the wrong date (a day later). I've moved the page: this is just a courtesy call so you can update your files...as I'm having to do for mine.

BW

Steve

so.it.goes.2512 16:34, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

front page
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for your feedback on the front page. Point taken on the empty space, although I kind of like to have as much white as possible, for a "clean" look. Also, the space at the top allows the info block on what the wiki, site stats, etc is to stand out. Mind you, I'm about the last person in the world to ask about design stuff!

Think a major front page redesign could be good at some point, but at the moment just concentrating on getting basic info up. Simplification always good of course. Maybe just one background color for the section headers? Sort out the Help Wanted and Helping Out Sections?

Like I said, front page stuff something of a distraction in a way...

Cheers,

Steve

alt front page
Had a little mess around further to your suggestions - Test new front page alt. Looks good to me. Think a bit of further rebalancing might be needed. Let's see what Steve thinks too. Cheers, Steve W 04:53, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Snowman?
Thumbs up from Steve SIG as well on bringing the featured articles up. Hard to stop messing around with this stuff once you get started, though. On the "clean" design front with loads of white, how about this one - Test new front page snowman?

I'll stop all this soon, don't worry...

Cheers,

Steve W 17:01, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

late one
Hi Stuart,

Yeah, definitely late in these parts, but I've got a day off tomorrow, so not too worried about that.

Many thanks for the feedback on the front pages. Yeah, I'm with you really on the white - doesn't split things up enough. But definitely good to bring the featured articles up.

Just a last one for your consideration - Test new front page Mr Grey - different style of colour scheme, auto-update stuff in column, other sections stretched. Of course, doesn't have to be grey as the unifying colour. Or could have different style of section breaks in the column. Or...

Too bad about the Poptones t-shirt hunt. Maybe one day...

Time for bed!

Steve W 18:38, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Grinderswitch
Hi Stuart.

Just wondered if, during your work on the 1991 shows, you'd come across the date when Peel stopped using the Grinderswitch track as an intro?

Dr Mango 15:17, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

test front page variations
Hi Stuart,

Got the assorted ones listed up at User blog:Steve W/Front page reshuffle, blogs added if you have any further comments.

Cheers,

--Steve W 04:08, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Update
Hi Stuart,

Wanted to say many thanks for the latest 1983 mixtapes, one of which I'm listening to as I type.

On the front page front, you may have noticed have had a few goes at a few things (knew I'd get caught up in it). Steve (SiG) and Dr Mango both seemed good with the grey and white one, so went with that as a basic layout. Then struggled away for a couple more days trying to rid off the ads out of the middle of the layout if you're not logged in (ie, for newcomers to the site).

After a couple more technical things, think it's fairly much ready to go, although I want to check it on a couple more browsers first, as different ones show up different things (usually problems). May marginally tweak one or two bits of the sections to make things clearer or add info.

Anyway, hope the new look seems OK with you. Good that you suggested bringing things up to the top next to the pic in the first place. Also took on board your comments on the original "Snowman" version and tried to separate the different sections more clearly.

Thinking to put up the final version at the start of next month assuming no major problems.

Cheers,

Steve W 01:29, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Beta testing
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your message. Didn't sign up for the testing but have been following the debate on the proposed changes (see "Staff Blog" below the left menu). Seems like most people don't like the new look and like I may have to redo the front page (bit of a drag), but trying not to worry too much about it yet. Will just have to make adjustments when it comes out.

Had been thinking to suggest changing the skin colour here from blue to red (given Peel's special fondness for the colour), but holding off on this for the time being until we see what happens.

Cheers,

Steve W 03:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

PS Did you sign up to be a tester?

menus
Thansk for your message. Guess will see how it works out. Hoping the menu changes shouldn't be too hard to work through with a bit of reorganization to keep site navigation on track.

Did you sign up to be a beta tester?

Steve W 07:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

thanks for message
Hi again, Good to know details. Hope it's not going to be too much of a drag. Decided I should apply to be a tester too, so will see if they take me onboard. Cheers, Steve W 07:52, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Stuart, sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, I've been very busy. No, I haven't applied to be a beta tester. I have enough on my plate already! Would be interested to hear the reults, though.

Take care

so.it.goes.2512 00:14, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

pic
Hi Stuart,

Wanted to run an alternative front page pic by you (and others), rather than just sicking it up there. Please see:

Test new front page white and grey

Cheers,

Steve W 05:58, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

PS No word on whether I've been accepted as a beta tester - maybe too late already.

thanks
Thanks for your message. Yeah, it looks weird logged out as well (see related talk page). Maybe just leave it until the new system starts in.

Cheers,

Steve W 12:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Think I sussed out what the problem is on the test page. Basically there's some code that works only on the front page - sorting out the columns - so when you copy over the front page code to another page, it looks weird when you're logged out (or in the new skin, I guess).

That being the case, it should just be a matter of changing the pic file on the front page itself (leaving everything else in place) and should be no problem.

That is, if we want to change the pic anyway. Think maybe best to leave these things until the new look is rolled out and then see what's possible on the front page anyway. Could need another revamp, depending on what's still possible.

Steve W 16:49, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

menu
Yeah, sounds from what you say that the menu will be the big problem - as it's the main navigation tool. Four menus of seven items sounds a bit limited if that's the max. Maybe need to start thinking about how to consolidate them.

To some extent this can be done by building hub base pages or categories to give access to everything else.

For example, in the current Reference section (which is a kind of catch-all), I recently opened up a Football link. This goes to the main football page, which also has links to other fooball-related pages. Similarly, have opened up a related Football category, which also contains all Football related. Either these could be merged for one main Football hub page or we could one use of the two on the menu as the main football hub.

Not sure what our main four menus should be, though. I'd imagine that the two most popular at the moment would be the Calendar and Festive Fifty, so maybe keep them in some kind of adjusted form (in rough terms, the second level links at the moment).

Any ideas?

Cheers

Steve W 03:27, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks
Did get the 1978 show in the end, so thanks for sorting the link - in fact listening to it right now. Brilliant stuff. Filled in the missing Upsetters and Clash tracks, but not sure on further details (eg, the label for the Upsetters album - it was released in the UK, but maybe Peel had a Jamaican import, who knows?).The Clash song was released in a couple of versions, but need to check which one this is - maybe an NME giveaway. Will sort out the page when I do and also add a couple of links for the football references.

Great show, so thanks again. Yeah, the Radio 4 interview is a real classic. Really looking forward to the rest of your current 400 Box shows.

Steve W 19:05, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

latest
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for the latest 400 Box show. Listening right now and it's great. Guess the fact that he played Boston, Yes, UFO, etc, fairly much died out once Tommy Vance got the Friday night slot.

You may have seen I've put together a mirror page for the menu links (called Navigation), in preparation for the change of skin from Monaco. To an extent this is a repeat of the wiki-navigation page, which mirrors the actual menu. I don't know if this is going to be available on the new skin.

My understanding from you is that we're going down to 4 x 7 links from the top bar only. Is there no other place for navigation (eg, the wiki-navigation page) where current links will switch to?

If not, guess we need to think about how to simplify the menu. To some extent, it would be easy enough to build a few main hub pages (eg, mirroring the ten existing first level menu items, excluding the front page link - although this could be simplified) and adding a few important ones to take it to 28, but the number of clicks to reach individual pages would certainly increase. Seems a real drag if that's what they want to do. Don't really understand the thinking behind it.

On the other hand, could be a good opportunity to simplify things down a bit. For example, could easily make a category page for Previous Featured Articles to include all the ones that are there at the moment. This kind of thing could easily be extended - eg, fold the Search section of the menu into Help (as it is on the front page), merge the Mailing List and Web sections, etc.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Steve W 18:13, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

12th December 1990
Hi Weatherman,

just a reminder [as this page may have slipped your memory], but is there any chance you may have this show to upload?

Cheers!

Baz.Peter tron 01:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

25 January 1979
Hi Stu.

Is the tape from 25 January 1979 amongst those you've been sent in the mop up exercise? It was one that I couldn't get to play from my first batch: it needed re-shelling, but I wasn't that confident about it doing it myself. I've always wondered what happened to it after I sent it back.

Dr Mango 13:42, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

T198
Hi Stuart.

Did you get the email?

Dr Mango 18:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

spotify
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your message. Seems like a good plan, although I can't connect through myself as Spotify isn't available out here at the end of the world yet. Think a good proportion of folks on the wiki are probably UK-based, though, so go for it.

Cheers,

Steve W 15:33, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

23 September 1994
Hi Stuart, we have had a request from user Baz (Peter Tron) for this show, of which you seem to have the second half. I have the first (up to where I believe you wrote "tape starts here"): if you could please upload it, I can make a complete version. Hope you have the time to sort this out!

All the best

so.it.goes.2512 02:03, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Stuart, thanks so much for taking the trouble to sort this out. Your mixtape sounds great by the way, look forward to seeing that too!

Best wishes

so.it.goes.2512 14:01, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

gibson tapes
I've started a page, but how do you want me to upload the files? Do i upload to hosters such as 'rapidshare' etc., and then you upload them to your own server? Eitherway, as long as I upload them to the page it's 'job done' really.

One other thing, a few of my tapes are spanning maybe 2 years etc, and in some cases I have located the same tracks on a show someone else has uploaded to the site, so do I use footnotes next to those tracks on my page pointing people to those other shows?

It's just that i'm trying to get as much accurate date information on all of the tracks I have on each of my mixtapes when i upload them.

Baz.

the gibson tapes
Where abouts is my page on the wikia? I'm working on it on my own user page, but it isn't listed in the mixtapes section with IAP etc. How do I put it with the other mixtape entries? {i'm getting there, gradually!]

cheers!

Baz.

nice one
Hi Stuart,

Many thanks for adding the 10 February 1981 page. Good plan to extend the mixtape listings to the date pages, but there never seems enough time. Great if you can give it a bit of a go.

Cheers,

Steve W 15:53, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

cool
All workstreams really appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve W 17:47, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting there [gradually!].

There's two things I need to sort out, if you could spare some time.

1] I need to have my main page to look like this: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Mixtapes

I need to have a main page with links to click that take you to the actual mixtape show, so my main page would be titles 'Gibson Tapes' and underneath there would be clickable links that would be 'Tape 1', Tape 2' etc.that would bring you to the actual mixtape page itself.

I've put the URL for my page here below so you can see what I mean. The page as i've edited it resembles a mixtape page, not a main page that shows links to the actual mixtape pages.

http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Gibson%27s_Tapes

2] The drop-down menu on the left hand side of the page has the 'mailing list' menu, which contains the 'mixtape' menu, but there are only three entries [marks mixtapes. best of peel tapes' etc.]. I can't locate my 'gibson tapes' there. The only way I can find it is if I click the 'mixtape' button at the bottom of someone elses page.

Sorry about this, but i'm in a bit of a pickle. If you could help, that'd be most welcome. On a lighter note, I found another peel mixtape that i can upload before i get my hands on the motherlode of 40+ peel tapes in my grandad's garage. Until i can sort out this format/page issue, i'll upload the show to you guys on the yahoo newsgroup page!

Cheers!

Baz.

The drop-down search bar on the left side of the page
Hi Stuart,

I've now sorted out my main page and the links issue for the mixtapes [it was a lot easier once i stopped fretting and took your. advice on board, so thanks for that!].

One thing that i've still not figured out. My 'Gibson Tapes' section is not listed with everyone elses mixtapes when you look at the drop-down menu on the left side of the window ['mailing list' - 'mixtapes' - 'best of peel mixtapes' / mark's mixtapes' / 'weatherman22's tapes']. How do I address this issue so my main page appears in the drop-down list with everone elses?

cheers!

Baz.

Hi Stuart,

Let me know how you get on with the two tapes i've put up so-far, obviously, missing info would be amazing!

I've just sent a masg to Steve about the menu sidebar, so see how that goes.

Cheers for getting back to me,

Baz. Peter tron 14:29, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

calendars
Hi Stuart,

Yeah, I noticed the calendar problem too. Thought this had been sorted out in the beta. I've sent a message to Wikia and hope they can sort it out (although imagine they are probably a bit busy right now). Think it must be something at their end with the new skin.

Cheers,

Steve W 03:02, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

PS Hope the new menu navigation seems roughly OK for finding things. Still need to sort out the look of some of the pages obviously.

me?
Thanks for the message.

Ag, sorry, red... I might have inadvertently changed the theme for everyone logged in by accident. (Thought it was only for me.) The theme designer's been very weird this evening for me, kind of having a nervous breakdown so I couldn't access the new system at all.

Anyway, sorry if I switched you to red - put it to white now at my end. Any preferences?

Cheers,

Steve W 18:22, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

agree
Yeah, would obviously be preferable to have more usable space, but I guess we've just to go with what we've got. Was thinking some sort of pic or collage thing could be done, as colour blocks (especially white) are very boring indeed, but don't really have any time to think about it right now. Will try and have a go at some point if no one else wants to.

Cheers,

Steve W 02:37, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

editing clash!
ah yes, you're right, must watch for that!

I get the same msg when i hit the 'back' button on my browser to go back to edit a page when i've just come out of it, instead of clicking the 'edit page' button to go back into it again.

It must have been at that exact same moment, even though I was just correcting 'Torrrida' to 'Taridda' [which took only about 1min!] Lol!

Sorry again mate!

Baz.Peter tron 02:46, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Stuart,

No feedback or change from wikia yet on the calendar front.

I checked and our CSS code for it seems to be identical to the standard one posted:


 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Simple_Calendar
 * http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css

Therefore, guessing the problem must be something to do with the new wikia system. Didn't you say there was an identical thing during the beta testing and then they fixed it?

Cheers,

Steve W 18:57, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

calendar stuff
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your message. Yeah, the Wiki.css seemed empty, so tried loading everything we have in the Common.css into that.

Doesn't seem to have changed anything (as yet). Cleared caches, but maybe it'll take a bit of time to work through the system.

Slightly confused about some aspects of this new system and don't know anything about css, so it's a bit of a drag trying to sort out what can be done.

Steve W 03:28, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

19.6.84
Hi Stuart,

I noticed that the file name is different from 19 June, but I have downloaded this show long ago. On my mp3, the first track is Everything BTG, than follows Siouxsie but only now I see it is followed by Dead Can Dance EP track and Xmal or so. So where is the unknown track and what have I downloaded? My mp3's name is "1984-06-13-14-19 Peel Mid June 1984" and it starts with EBTG. What is the name of the file with the unknown song?

I am sorry for the mistake, I only took the first track from the list.

Boris Rangelov 19:43, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

mixtape
Stuart, I've just listened to it - a male vocalist, again strange accent...

Boris Rangelov 19:57, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Radio Eins
Hi Stuart, I noticed you made an edit to the Radio Eins page stating that some of the dates conflict with the tracklistings on the home page. Now, these are no longer available, as I noted. I wrote to them in my best cod German asking for a copy but they never replied, and I assume from your edit that you have the tracklistings. If so, could you get them to me some time? It would be a real help! Thanks in advance.

All the best

Steve (TK)

so.it.goes.2512 01:25, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

calendars now work
Hi Stuart,

Finally fixed, thanks to the Wikia support guys. You may need to clear you caches before you see the changes (sorry, don't have a link for how this is done in all browsers).

Actually, should have been able to do this myself, but made a mess of it. Know now where I went wrong, so at least I learned something as well.

Cheers,

Steve

PS Special thanks for sorting out the June 2001 page with the Peel live set from Sonar. It's a show I really like and always meant to get round to doing the page - dance ones are a bit tricky.

calendars
Yeah, think that's what happened, but wasn't looking closely enough when I tried to fix it. Anyway, at least they work now.

Cheers,

Steve

Radio Eins
Hi Stuart, thanks so much for your monumental work on the Radio Eins lists. In fact, I was so impressed I've changed my original page and dispensed with my rather weedy attempt at number cataloguing in deference to your main page. It's great that more of an interest is being shown in Peel's foreign output: once upon a time, we just had a few incomplete BFBS shows from the torrents, now we're positively swimming in them (and I still have many more of Carsten's shows to put up).

All the best

so.it.goes.2512 01:03, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Finnish Radio
Hi Stuart. Thanks for your messages. I've deleted the page as you asked. If you want to move the snippet to the first date of the shows, that's fine by me. We can always move it again if any more information comes to light (with all the new material flying around, you never know).

As for the torrent pages, it certainly looks neater and more compact, the only suggestion I could make being to add brackets around the page links to make sure they look separate from the other information. I'll do that now, tell me what you think.

I don't know how you made the table for the Radio Eins dates, but it looks splendid (although it's a nightmare to edit! I got lost in the code a few times.)

Thanks for all your work on the overseas shows, it's good someone else is taking an interest.

All the best

so.it.goes.2512 01:35, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

new look
Hi Stuart,

Re the new look:

1. Wonder if you could check out User blog:Steve W/New look, logo if you haven't already. Would appreciate your opinion as the person who's been using the new system longest.

2. Saw your message to the mailing list re the new look. Hadn't thought about the tracklistings on the year pages, but yeah, they're certainly a bit weird in the new system. Think one way out would be for me to adjust the original Google spreadsheets so that the largely empty columns between the date and artist/title data is either junked or shifted out of the way to the right. Any thoughts?

Think people are probably seeing the new look in slightly different ways depending on the size of their screen, browser used, operating system, etc. Remember the red background hurt your eyes (not really a problem for me, as I only have the browser on about two-thirds of my screen).

Couple of questions:

1. How's the grey background instead of the red? Thought it was probably relatively easy on the eye, and has the advantage of roughly chiming with the front page right column (which happily seems to have stayed in place).

2. Is having blocks of grey as the background just too boring or is it OK? I know wikia seem to think everyone's going to want to have graphics and stuff, but I like keeping things fairly simple (see test logo!), so a grey background is fine by me (also, it doesn't take up much of my screen anyway).

If you'd like to check out something a bit different I've had a quick go at making a black and white collage wallpaper thing, with pics, album covers and stuff. This would need more work as it's only very rough at the moment, but I could switch it over for an hour or two right now if you're around, so you could let me know what you think.

Not sure if you're around right now, but noticed you've been editing a page so perhaps you still are. Please drop me a line if you'd like a look at the rough graphic background thing. Please feel free to suggest alternatives.

Cheers,

Steve W 08:38, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Cheers
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have a go at the spreadsheets during the week if I get some time. As I remember it, the spacing is auto-correcting, so not sure if I can make them smaller, although might not be and I can always move bits or scrap things that we don't really need.

Glad you had some kind of look at the wallpaper, which would need more work for sure. I'd like to keep the background a block colour if the grey seems OK (at least better than red), but something to keep in mind once there's a few more users on with the new look under the upcoming rollout schedule and we can see what other people think.

Wonder what you reckon on the logo front. I don't really like the way the wikia header dominates the whole page and thought a logo might be a way of evening things up a bit. Not to say my rough one is any good.

Cheers,

Steve W 17:03, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Weatherman...your probably more able than most to help me identify two tracks played by John in 1980......................................possible title of one:Mum and Dad (approx lyrics)

I don't get on with my mum

I don't get on with my dad

they get me up in the morning

but I keep them awake at night....ooh mum and dad,,,,sax solo

.........and 86.22.7.181 22:47, October 17, 2010 (UTC)another(even vaguer):sort of harmonica/washboard rhythm

don't gimme no diamond rings

dah dah dah

give me love then I'll get stoned

give me love then I'll get stoned............top tunes...hope you can help

Cheers Mel86.22.7.181 22:47, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Mel

Sorry doesn't ring any bells, don't suppose you have an audio file?

Tapes
Hi weatherman22

If you have any unwanted tapes from 1982-90, I would be happy to take them off your hands!

1993 spreadsheet
Hi Stuart,

Sorry it's taken a few days to get around to this, but have made a test adjustment to the column order for the tracklisting spreadsheet for 1993. Does the new order seem fairly much OK? Don't seem to be able to adjust the column sizing for some reason.

The 1993 one is relatively short, so not sure the others would be as easy to switch the order, but hoping it shouldn't be too difficult.

Cheers,

Steve

Cool. Will try and sort out the others either tonight or tomorrow. Cheers, Steve W 06:12, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

something strange
I've changed the googledocs spreadsheets for all the years, but from 1997 the changes aren't showing up in the viewing windows. There's probably something simple that I'm not doing, but 1993-6 seemed to go fine with no problems, so it's a bit of a mystery right now. Steve W 07:55, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Update: Sorted it out - as expected, it was the settings. Steve W 09:50, October 23, 2010 (UTC)