User talk:Steve W

Please feel free to leave me a message.

Steve W 14:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Steve!
Yes, not exactly earth-shattering, is it? I'm afraid I didn't quite get what you meant yesterday, so here is my message. I'm going to activate my user page right now. P.S. 1981 Festive Fifty page is under construction, per your suggestion. All the best, mate. Steve so.it.goes.2512 00:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Cheers
Thanks, Steve. When I just logged in, it came up as "you have messages waiting". Cool. Think this could be useful in terms of letting people communicate with us (and vice-versa). Maybe I'll put a note on the front saying we'll activate the talk pages at the weekend or something. We can always delete the talk pages of particular individuals if they don't want them up. Also a link or two to my user page for people to use if they want.

Steve W 04:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Steve
No problem! Thought it was about time I pulled my weight on this 'ere wiki, as you and the other guys are doing such sterling work. That 12 March 1980 show is a good 'un, too. Loving this 400 Box stuff.

BTW, the peel group messages seem to have stalled. I sent one last night and it's still not showed up yet. But hopefully it's just a glitch and the mod will get on it.

Nice job on that Rock Family Trees episode. I'll give it a look when I get back on Sunday.

Eddie. DuffPaddy 10:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

6 March 1980
Hi Steve

Just noticed you were in 6 March 1980 but showing tape as 21 mins long. I downloaded version 1 hour 43 mins long. Looks like your download stopped early - this happened to me on a couple of Bill's files but if you look at the file sizes you'll see there is about 82 Mb available.

Cheers

Pash

are playlists from BFBS equivalent to the Radio 1 shows?
Hello Steve,

I have three questions:

what do you mean, how long does it take, to see the playlists(and I hope so also the audio-material) from 1980 and 81 complete here on this project?

Are the playlists from BFBS equivalent to the Radio 1 shows? I have listen the first BFBS-shows in autumn 79.

In the end of the 70´s I have listen (not a John Peel Show) the follow musician from Washington DC : Bob or Robert Spradley (or similar) The title of this song was "Doppler-schritt" (I´m not sure about the spelling). It was a kind of experimental with a lot of phasings and Jet-sounds...

In the same radioshow they also played pieces from the Residents "Commercial-album"

Thanks for help and answers...

regards Taymur

Hi Taymur,

Uh, good questions. I'll put my answer on your user discussion page.

Cheers,

Steve W 11:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

BFBS shows
Hello Steve,

at first thank you for your answers...

fortunately, I have a copy of a handscribed book with the BFBS-shows from 19.3.1981 - 24.12.1985...

my first recording was from november 79 (at that time, I had only the chance for mono-recordings, the broadcasting-quality in East-Berlin was lousy. I think the follow artists was (this mc is broken...) on this tape:

Jam - Eaten rifle, 4B2 - War of the lads, Cabaret Voltaire - Heaven and Hell

unfortunately some notices and tapes are lost or broken...years later, I bought some vinyl-material etc. from this stuff

other recordings was on old mono-tapes, after than in the mid of the 80´s in stereo. I had the chance to get some mc´s from the years 82 and 83. My interest are the years 1979-1982 of this kind of music.

If you have interest, I make a copy of this book (I think in 2 weeks the copy is ready) and send this to your adress.

A great help for me would be copies (pdf or rtf is o.k.)from the playlists(of course the audio-material is also welcome) from Jan.1979 - March 1981...

here an excerpt from 24.9.81:

Indoor shopping center - The Plugs, Mad eyed screamer - Creatures, Backening strings - Altered Images, Science of voice - Volkstanz, Stretch - Maximum Joy, The ultimate in fun is going to the disco with my babe - Rip, Rig & Panic, Real toy - Altered Images, Split second feeling - Cabaret Voltaire, Round world - Method Actors, So unreal - The Creatures,

Our secret - Comsat Angels, Cracked the ball - Wall of Voodoo, Faithless - Altered Images, Totally naked without lock key - Rip, Rig & Panic, But not then - Creatures, Spring in (feealta)? - Slow Children, Toom top - Zeros, Wild thing - Creatures

regards Taymur

10 September 1994
Hi Steve.

I've added another tracklisting to the other two I did yesterday. Tracking down the artist and track by 'Modogo Gian Franco Ferre' proved to be the most tricky aspect! My O Level French came in handy.

DM

Barbara Cartland/Extreme Noise Terror Mash Up Anyone?
Steve

Looking forward to The Pink Page in honour of Babs.

Posted another tracklisting today but couple of gaps which I'll try on the group.

Last one tomorrow then hols.

Wondered whether we shouldn't pitch to the Yahoo Group that volunteers pick off a show each to do but publicised so that we don't all do the same work. Have you already tried this beyond the volunteers welcome sign in the Wikia?

Best regards

Pash

Holidays Are Go
Steve

Best wishes to you too for both holiday and festive season. Can't wait for new 400 Box shows to relax to (that is if your idea of relaxation is tracking down a German EP which JP refuses to try and pronounce).

Look forward to speaking in 2009 - off to Thailand in the morning. Have a good one

Pash

Thanks, Steve!
I'll check out the KK stuff when I get back on Sunday night. Meantime, have a great Christmas & New Year yourself!

All the best,

Eddie.

21 December 2000
Are you working on the track listing of this, the recently-circulated Christmas special from Peel Acres? If not, I'll do it.

Dr M.

New Shows
Hi Steve

Happy New Year! Hope you had a great time in India. Thailand was fantastic - planning to go back as soon as I can. Really overwhelmed with number of new shows over Xmas - terrific. Did tracklisting for Jimmy Norton's Explosion/Rezillos show today (6.8.79) - which shows from Bill were you referring to? Will have a chance to do a couple in next days then move house so few days packing/unpacking and setting up new PC with 2 TB of hard drive space to accommodate all the 400 Box!

Speak soon

Pash

New Shows 2
Steve

Got the Bill shows - all clear now. Just downloading them and will kick off tomorrow on some.

Cheers

Pash

2 November 1987
Hi Steve.

I've just added this track listing. 02 November 1987. The show was briefly available for download on - I think - the shortlived forerunner of the http://www.30242.net/ website. It was up there sometime around late 2007 / early 2008. The show was incorrectly dated though, the filename said something like "late 1985".

New Front Page
Steve, this is fantastic!! Congratulations! Where do you get all these ideas from?

so.it.goes.2512 08:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Speed adjusted
Hi Steve. The 400 box page still carries the "provisional... speed adjusted versions coming" references for 10.01.79 and 14.02.79. I'm about to start work on the next one.

Kev's tapes
Hi Steve. How's about making a new category for Kev's tape collection, so the relevant pages can be tagged? Kev's Tapes.

Dr Mango 15:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Update
Hi Steve, thanks for your comments about the Banshees page. I have also revamped the Festive Fifty 1976 front page after getting an email from Ken this morning about the 'was it a listener's poll or wasn't it' dilemma...since he says he voted in it, I changed that and the formatting as well. He has also provided me with the session repeat dates for the 1983 and 1984 FFs so I'm in the process of updating the former and getting ready to start work on the latter. I have read your email but didn't have time to respond this morning: thanks for doing the what's new update, as I just didn't get around to it. Enough waffle and back to my day job! I'll try and put some of my other ideas in action as and when. so.it.goes.2512 06:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

1976 Festive Fifty
Hi Steve, sorry to drag this out, but I rather like the layout of the main page, and nobody seems to have queried my other listings, so please don't go to all the trouble of redoing it. I like to imagine that somebody who's never heard of it would rather be prompted to scroll down to find the higher placings than otherwise. Or maybe I'm just an idiosyncratic old bastard. As JP would say, who knows?!! Cheers Your comrade in arms

so.it.goes.2512 16:40, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Work!
Good lord, my man, have you been busy or what! As I said on my user page, I have to be careful about how much time I spend Peeling, so I'll add bits and pieces whenever. Take care, buddy.

so.it.goes.2512 11:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Busy
Hi Steve. Yeah, I've been on a roll this week! Been banging out about two track listings a day, although my brain has hurt by the end of the second. 14 April 1980 is a great show, by the way. Hearing Peel play Wham! still seems odd. Mind you, I feel queasy when I hear UB40 on his show!

Looks like you've only taken a short breather...thanks for locating the 22 January 2002 show, as I didn't have it at all! P.S. Added two link pages to Peel Celebrations.

Keep on rockin' in the free world

so.it.goes.2512 15:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey Steve!
 * I found your 'Cricketer' comment, and I'll alter the information ASAP, thank you for that.
 * Are there any impending dates for your new 'On This Day' that I can help with?


 * Cheers, Steve

so.it.goes.2512 05:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

1981 - 83
Hi! After finishing off the track listing for the excellent collection that is Kev's Tapes, I had a look at my own archives for any shows in 1981 - 83 that weren't yet listed on the Wiki. You probably spotted 01 June 1982 going up the other day. I've just added 29 July 1982. I can't remember where I got this show from. It was a couple of years back and must have been one of the tape sharing blogs. Just so you know, I've got 16 February 1981 in my sights next, plus one or two more. All good stuff. :)

By the way, I think the page for 01 June 1981 should be removed. I think it was created in error due to a error dating the show. The download link shows it to be the show for 14 May 1981, which is complete.

Dr Mango 23:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: 29 July 1982. I don't know whether it's just my recording or a problem with the encoding, but it's a bit rough in places, with some bursts of crackle. Maybe an appeal to the Yahoo group would be an idea before I upload my copy (which I'm willing to do).

Dr Mango 15:16, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, what about the last of Bill's recent batch, 24 March 1980? Shall I get onto it or have you started work? I hope you hadn't spent too much time on 07 April 1980 before I leapt in!

Dr Mango 19:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: unsolved mystery
Steve - it should be Seven Minutes Of Nausea, not Seven Seconds Of Nausea. The agony is clearly meant to last much longer !!!!

Virgin Shows
Guilty as charged

Been off line as I stupidly switched broadband providers and lo and his best mate behold - no broadband for a month! Finally back on line to find that all the March and April 1980 shows I tracklisted offline had already been done! Doh!

Can now do a few old jobs and started on the neglected Torrent 8 compilation and the Virgin in store shows - like you I love how pissed off he is and the comments about the staff are priceless.

Let me know what else is on the roster for tracklistings and I'll see what I can do

Cheers Pash

Peel Acres
Just a thought - it would be handy for reference to have a page called 'Peel Acres', with a brief explanation of what the place was and then a list of the acts who played there and the dates. I'd be happy to get cracking on that if you want to stick a template up.

Ok! I'll get onto it this evening. I didn't start the page myself because I thought there might be a template / guide to make everything here look uniform, but I can figure that out for myself I suppose. I've already included a link in the track listing I posted earlier for 10 June 2003! Dr Mango 19:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Torrent 8
Yeah, I found torrent 8 a touch frustrating. I downloaded some shows that looked to be new to me, only to find - when they eventually came down - that they were shows already in my collection, just incorrectly titled. It's a bit bafflingly too that there's a couple of duplicates in the torrent, same show, just with different names! Anyway, speaking of torrent 8, I've just added 02 January 1980. I've had the full show for this date for a while, not sure where I got it from. It was a couple of years back.

Dr Mango 21:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Uploads
Steve

Any chance of reupping some shows I can't pull down as follows:

06 Feb 1979 04 Jun 1979 14 Jul 1980 22 Aug 1978 16 Feb 1981 25 May 1979

Many thanks

Pash

Hi Steve!
Thanks for the kind words. It's nice to know there's other Peel fanatics out there! :)

Uploads Sorted
Steve

Sorry to be a pain. The links were there (although some pop up 4 possible sources sharebee, megaupload, rapidshare etc and only one works) but I wasn't diligent enough. If you could post 16 Feb 1981 though I would be grateful. 25 May 1979 show was in fact 24 May 1979 - had it misfiled on iTunes and suffered mysterious deletion somehow - oh dear not been feeling great today!

Updated the tracklisting for 14 Jul 1980 and will tidy up any of the other shows I referenced once they have all downloaded.

Best regards

Pash

25 February 2003
Steve,

Firstly, an appreciation from me for all the hard work you're putting into the Wiki.

I've noticed the tracklist you recently put up dated 25 February 2003 should be 25 March 2003.

Cheers,

Pad

Cheers For The Up
Thanks Steve

Lot better today - think that was the last Virgin show but I do have a batch of shows without tracklistings which I am gradually ploughing through and uncovering some classic tracks. Last Virgin was a belter - JP taking the piss hugely!

Now just want to find a copy of the Magazine reformation shows I went to last week - someone must have recorded them. Blinding sets on both nights I went to.

Cheers

Pash

More Torrent 8
Hi Steve.

Still poking around with Torrent 8. The two files named "80-00-00" and "John Peel Show 00-04-80" are the same file with a different name (doh!). They appear to be another half an hour's worth of the show from 11 February 1980, judging by the session guests. So I'll add the details this evening. Whoever put this torrent together must have a strange sense of humour!

Dr Mango 18:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

New tapes
I have a small collection of Peel shows from my own tapes which don't appear to be available yet...

1994-07-01 1994-08-05 1999-03-23 1999-03-24 1999-07-10 2000-02-09 2000-03-01 2000-04-27

They're currently digitised in OGG format, but could easily be re-ripped or converted.

What's the best way to make them available to your good selves (and indeed, anyone else that wants them)?

Syrtis 00:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

1977 FF50
I think I finally have a definitive answer!

http://www.strictly-vibes.com/j-ayes-yaho-j-ayes-amp-ranking-trevor-tr-vt8026.html

ThunderPeel2001 11:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries, Steve! :) ThunderPeel2001 10:20, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Turning Japanese (a case of the vapours?)
Hi Steve. Ha! Seemed a bit picky of me, I thought at the time. Glad you didn't get the hump!

Dr Mango

tapes of partial peel 1979 - 82
I have loads of cassette tapes of Peel - poor quality but much loved. Not full tapes - just me pushing my record button when he plays something I liked ... no idea what to do with them - can you help86.139.134.214 21:37, 23 March 2009 (UTC) m.luetchford@btopenworld.com

new person with tapes!
So I'll type up playlists and look at your link - nudge me if you don't hear as I am keen to contribute to the great mans memory. He is still missed every day.

This is a sample of what sort of info. will be in playlists:

Title: John Peel - February 1982 - UB40

A. B52s - Mesopotamia The Wake - Give Up Echo and the Bunnymen - Taking Advantage Heaven17 - At the height of the fighting If all else fails - DISTINCT UB40 - Followtician PULP - Turnkey Mamba Mama The Drowning Craze - In the Heat

B. The Associates - Party Fears Two Tesco Bombers - Break the ice at parties UB40 - Love is all, is alright Digital(l) - Siouxie Sioux II Switch - Siouxie Sioux Louis Jordan - Beans and Cornbread Colours out of time - Mambo Girl Mambo

Just typing it up makes me remember his genius - I always wanted to put together a tape of John Peel songs - Skids TV Stars, Made Professor - John Peel Dub, Mandolin on the Faces etc. sure there were more - also his single box - it would be great CD.

Mark

02 september 1985
oops,

hadn't posted to list, now rectified!

best wishes.

gordon

Gordonrgw 21:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

29 September 1987
Hi Steve.

I can't remember exactly where this show came from. It wasn't from Jon Horne's site though, definitely. I have a feeling it was from the predecessor the current 3042b.net website. The file creation date is 27 Feb 2008. It seems as if they were previously available about a month before that, with the incorrect date of 30 August 1987, I think (I only deleted the duplicates yesterday so can't double-check now!). I'm sure someone on the Yahoo group will remember the source. I've got a few more 1987 shows that aren't on the Wiki, ones that I acquired from some short-lived sharing sites back in 2007, so I'll get around to doing them this week as well.

Dr Mango 13:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Right! Today I compared my 1987 shows with what's on the Wiki and noticed two omissions here, these being 16 June 1987 and 17 June 1987. I've just added details of the first show. My mp3 is only 36 mins long. I can't remember exactly where I got it, some short-lived blog back in 2005 I think. It wouldn't surprise me if the person is a member of the Yahoo group. It's quite possible that the original download was the full 2 hour show and the flakey internet connection at work (for that's where I was when I grabbed it) conked out before the download had finished. I remember having lots of problems with downloading at the time. The 17 June 1987 is the full show. In fact, it's 2 hours and 20 mins long. I've just had a listen and there a chunk of show from 1990 tacked onto the end. Anyway, interestingly, both are the same in style to 15 June 1987, which IS on the Wiki. Looks like it's the same taper / ripper that was responsible.

Dr Mango 23:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Steve!
Hey!

Thanks for the account man!

I am working on getting as much of my cassettes MP3 as possible.

Do the shows have to be in full? I mean with Peel voiceovers etc. or just the songs?

I ask because I have ones in each format.

Dave

Back!
Been away for a while thankz to my incredible work load but zhould be able to get a bit of blogging and wikiing in during the zummer!

Hope all iz well at your end.

Telstar
Hi

have you seen the trailer for the new Joe Meek film 'Telstar'?

Someone plays John Peel in it as working for the NME..

--Thesummerproject 22:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Peel was in a pretty dire film called 'Five Seconds To Spare' in 1999.

Here's the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXiXBiJoWdM

--Thesummerproject 12:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Show 14 Feb 1979
I reread an old diary I kept in '79 where I had noted that I particularly enjoyed the show on 14 Feb - the tracklisting on the Wiki page looks great but the link has died. Can it be uploaded again please? That'd be much appreciated.

I've really enjoyed revisiting the shows online. I have a friend with a box of Peel tapes from the late 70s who I keep nagging to let me borrow them so I can digitise them. I'll let you know if I have any success.

Cheers--78.149.191.239 16:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, will re-up and notify you here in the next day or two. Would be excellent if you can get your friend to hand over the tapes for digitizing. Please keep us updated. Cheers, Steve W 17:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Track listings etc
I'll get onto Ken's recent share now. Regarding the other matter, what's your email address?

Dr Mango 17:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

How can I best help?
Steve

I will keep the gushing to a minimum but suffice to say I am thrilled to discover the Peel Wiki. I had trawled the blogs over the last few years grabbing all that Peel Everday, Kats Karavan etc had to offer (and bless them all for that). I can't believe I have now stumbled on this treasure trove of the great man's work. So how can I best help? I am more than happy to tracklist a show but not sure how I know which are 1) available to download and 2) have not yet been worked on. If that is under control what else can I do to get involved? Let me know - Keen to get started

Cheers, Peter

--PeterG 07:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Please check my homework teach
Hi Steve

Thanks for the advice and direction. I started in the Andrew T 90s Tapes as you suggested. I completed 30 March 1999 and would appreciate it if you could give it the once over to see if I made any obvious mistakes, improvements I could make etc. This will help me to avoid perpetuating mistakes with each list I work on. Once again thanks for letting me be a part of this

Cheers, Peter

PeterG 06:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Great advice!
Steve

Many thanks for the thorough review and great advice. In particular I have checked into the search database which looks to be a great resource (though I am still inclined to listen to the show for accuracy and feel – hardly a chore). I will try the Unknown category as well as you suggest. I notice you used discogs for the album link. I tend to use allmusic a lot so I may try a link or two to that. I assume it doesn’t matter which resource site if it adds value (let me know if not). Thanks again and on to next page!

Cheers, Peter

Transcribing existing tracklistings?
Hi Steve

Hope all is well. Thanks for the latest round of tips. I incorporated quite a few into my latest page 28 January 1999 (comments more than welcome!) By the way I now completely concur with using discogs for a lot of the Peel links; it is much better for the indie releases!

Anyway to tonight's query; I am traveling this week with 4 hours on a plane each way and was figuring listening and transcribing some JP would not be a bad way to spend some time.

When offline, I think I would focus on pages where the playlist is mostly known (e.g. 14 April 1995) but needs to be put into standard format and other info captured while listening. Am I right in assuming we want shows like this put into standard format?

Let me know and if so I will take a shot this week.

All The Best, Peter

PeterG 04:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Hope this is useful?
Hi Steve:

Back in game after a week on the road. Based on your feedback I worked on 14 April 1995 which had a starting playlist. I definitely found it easier to work form a starting list when on a plane etc. as I have a reference to work from. Then I can add links etc. when I get back online either at the hotel or when I return home. If this is of value to the wiki then I will reserve those kind of pages for when I am on the road. Very nice track down on The Boys by the way from the 28 January 1999 show

Access to the Andrew T Tapes
Hi Steve

Sorry for the slow output lately; combination of work on the road, vacation and a computer crash. Anyway two new transcribed shows up. I recommend 03 September 1994 - it's hysterical and the music is great. Meanwhile I was looking for another Andrew T show to transcribe while I travel next week, and I get the following error message no matter what show I choose. Any insight appreciated. Cheers, Peter

Forbidden You don't have permission to access /JP_AT_index.html on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Hello

Yes, 30242.net seems to be down at the moment, hopefully nothing serious. I've asked 'over the road' but nobody has responded yet. Fingers crossed.

Andrew

AndrewT IAP and The Rest
Thanks for keeping me in the loop Steve. I have started working on an IAP show so I will finish that up first. Then I will have two worlds to work in which should keep me busy. I will also join the Mailing Group as you suggest; seems like there is some great info and people over there.

Thanks for now from some generic hotel room somewhere in the U.S.

Cheers, Peter

Peelenium
Hi Steve,

While correcting the typo in the Peelenium table (1972->1973), one thing has struck me. We seem to refer to the Peelenium as 100 years, last 100 shows etc. However, as records were played from 1900 to 2000 inclusive, shouldn't this technically be 101 years ?

(Pedantic hat off)

Cheers,

Pad --Postscriptxyz 15:37, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Another Garden?!
Hi Steve, I've never heard of this, but hats off to you for the discovery! I took the liberty of moving the page from 'Gandalf's Garden' as the title didn't appear to match the contents. Must re-read my Margarve, too!

Take care, buddy.

so.it.goes.2512 01:36, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

tapes pages
Thanks for setting these up.

I had realised my mistake before seeing your message to me! I should have read your full instructions before starting.

I have already created replacement pages with the T in front of them but I assume I can't delete the pages I created by mistake, if you could do that for me I'd be grateful.

Stuart

tapes pages
Thanks for setting these up.

I had realised my mistake before seeing your message to me! I should have read your full instructions before starting.

I have already created replacement pages with the T in front of them but I assume I can't delete the pages I created by mistake, if you could do that for me I'd be grateful.

Stuart--Weatherman22 18:59, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Offline shows and stuff
Hi Steve, I'm pretty new to this site and as there doesn't seem to be any dedicate owner I thought I would send you a message as you were the last one to edit the page http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/18_January_1982. Now links [1] & [2] seem to be dead and the fourth doesn't seem to work. Do you know how we go about fixing the first 2 links?

Secondly the site is amazing. Such dedicated people. I have bits and pieces from 1992 onwards, is there anything in particular that you're missing? I've yet to catalogue what I have so I can't do a direct comparison against the wealth of stuff already available but just in case there was anything particular then I could remember if I have it or not.

Lastly and just a recommendation (for what it's worth) mediafire and megaupload seem to be the better online storage places - e.g. items seem to stay up for longer and are generally more available than rapidshare.

Once I start cataloging what I have then hopefully I may be able to contribute.

Cheers, Grenville

PS - I think the fourth link may work, but only in IE.

Blue links
Steve

I thought the links were red - they certainly seemed to automatically turn that colour when creating the Track Listings in the Edit mode, the same as date page and tape page links, if there was no existing page. I did notice sometimes when going back to a track listing page they had turned blue but I thought that was because IE hadn't checked the availability of the page.

Stuart --Weatherman22 06:12, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

PS looking at the pages I can see that at some point in the page creation process the links had changed to external links with URL of the form http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Bhundu_Boys&action=edit&redlink=1

I've started reverting them to internal links

More bluelinks problems

Busy tracklisting these 1983 shows, again I've noticed some redlinks changing to bluelinks when saving the page.

What I do is type the Band name, then highlight it and press the Hyperlink button.

The band name appears in the Internal Link tab, in the Article Name and Link Text fields. Looking at the External tab the URL is empty and the band name again appears in the Link Text field.

In the Internal Link tab I just press OK, the hyperlink then turns red.

Then if I save the page it has turned blue. Going back in to edit I see that the Article Name in the Internal tab has become blank, and a URL link has been added to the External tab in the form

http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Brigandage&action=edit&redlink=1

--Weatherman22 23:42, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Stuart

If I could add my two pennies worth! When doing trcaklistings, I don't bother adding a hyperlink. I merely type double brackets around the artist name: if there is a page on the Peel Wiki, it turns blue. If not, it stays red. External links are single brackets. Hope this helps.

so.it.goes.2512 04:03, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

A Wanderer returns - and an observation on some DK tape names
Hi Steve

I am working on transcribing two of the excellent DK tapes - DK 2000-09-20 and 2000-09-21. It appears that the contents of these files are the opposite of how they are named i.e. 2000-09-20 contains the 9/21 show and vice versa. I have been able to figure this out using the Lorcan listings, KG book, and comments JP makes about the next night's show so I am pretty confident, but then it is me!

I will finish transcribing both in the next couple of days and it doesn't impact me but others trying to listen to the shows would get confused of course

Regards, Peter

PS Please assure me that other folks wander off for a few weeks from time to time to assuage my guilt; cheers!

PeterG 21:36, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Andy Kershaw sitting in - what to name Tracklisting
Hi Steve

While ripping my batch of the Box 400 tapes I have come across two Andy Kershaw programmes. One is clearly a bona fide Kershaw show so I know that should be created with his name in brackets afterwards so it doesn't affect the calendar page etc. The other seems to be a "sitting in for JP" type show, it contains two old Peel sessions. I just wondered how you would prefer that show to be named, a proper JP show or still include Andy Kershaw in the title and keep it away from the main Peel pages?

Cheers --Weatherman22 15:17, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Re: 1987
No probs! I hope I'm getting closer to the desired format, the latest tweak being to have no "the"'s in band names, though if JP ever played The The I wonder how I would type that one up.

Adding a few tracklistings to some 17-DVD shows in 1990 now...

Stuart

Kev's Tapes
Thanks for the "Kev's Tapes" page Steve - it made me realise I'd missed a few recordings so I've been busy downloading them. One thing - The pages for Tapes 16 and 17 are obviously supposed to be different but they both point to the Tape 16 downloads. Is Tape 17 available to download anywhere? Lorcan58 01:06, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick! I'm downloading the file as I type and looking forward to the Hokey Cokey. Thanks Steve. Lorcan58 16:25, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

1994 Category Page
Hi Steve Just doing some QC on 1994 but noticed that the category page 1994 kind of only half exists. The links stay red, but if you click on it, the page is created (with all the 1994 shows in the page) but saving the page doesn't properly create it!

Maybe that's a permissions thing?

Stuart--Weatherman22 13:52, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Deletion request
Steve

Would you mind deleting 30th May 1997? I created by mistake instead of 30th July! Many thanks --Weatherman22 16:44, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Happy Boxing Day!
Was working over Christmas unfortunately! Yeah noticed all these daily template thingies in the recent changes. Don't you ever get fed up!

Anyway I've just snagged a nice Nakamichi from ebay so hopefully my ripping will step up a few gears soon.

All the best

Stuart

TOTP
Hi Steve, hope Christmas and New Year treated you well.

I've recently come across a load of JP and Kid J TOTP show listings and want to stick them here.

I've done one...

http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/05_January_1984#Show

I'm guessing from the way JP worked that there won't be many, if any, occasions when he did a radio show on the same night as TOTP, so there shouldn't be any overlap.

Take a look at the page I did and tell me if I should proceed as though they were radio shows, or adopt a different format.

RE: TOTP
Sounds great, the radio format doesn't exactly fit for TOTP so it will be good to organize something different. Let me know and I'll get to work when it's set up.

RE: adding youtube directly - a good idea and I'll see what I can do, the site is banned here in Turkey and I can only access it at work.

New TV page
Great stuff. I'll keep plodding along with the TOTP. As you can see, I'm indulging myself a bit by starting with the years when I became a teenager and watched religiously. It offers such a fantastic contrast to his radio work.

I'll keep at it az and when work allows (youtube only accessible at work), let me know if you need me to change anything.

Adam

One and only 1968 TOTP
Sadly, the Buggers at the beeb saw fit to erase the Peel show, apparently, so the only clips I could find were ones of tracks that appeared on the 01 feb show but were actually performed two weeks later on 15 feb. Real shame.

Let me know if you learn otherwise, but I guess that's why it doesn't appear on the BBC list.

From my end
Yo Steve, I just love all the stuff you and Adam have done on TOTP! I'm nearing completion on the FF (one more left) and so will be looking around for other things to do.

All the best

so.it.goes.2512 17:10, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Finnish Shows
Thanks Steve, hadn't noticed the Planet Peel page before, and will get round to the links for the Finnish Pages. I seem to have a few projects on the go just now such as the 1991 shows, linking these to the Best Of, and I've just taken delivery of the last batch of the 400 Box collection and a Nak to rip them with.

All the best

Weatherman22 18:35, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

400 Box
A real mixture the last lot. There are a few dated programmes from 1978, 1979, 1981 and 1987, some with tracklistings, others totally blank, and some with intriguing labels such as 1970 and 1959. Haven't listened to any yet but you can see the basic tape descriptions on the T408 to T427 pages.

On This Day and Rich Text Editor
Hi Steve

I went to add my latest show to the OTD but you got there first, thanks!

It is a bit confusing to have to go to the template rather than just edit the section of the page. I noticed that the OTD page for the 15th July has a copy of all the entries for the 16th July, this can't be edited directly, but when I went to the Template page for the 15th July there was no sign of these entries! Even more puzzled now.

I dont know if you have come across any issues with the new Rich Text Editor. I've found that you can no longer use arrow keys to move up and down track listings. Also, the formatting toolbar doesn't work well at least in IE8, sometimes it is not possible to turn Bold Italic etc on and off after highlighting the text to change. I had a look in source view and noticed that it had been merrily adding multiple quotation marks (the markup I presume to tell the browser to turn formatting on and off). Also, in source view, the scroll bars constantly scroll the window back up to the top, very annoying if trying to edit the bottom of a section!

Anyway Tony Blackburn is awaiting you.....

Stuart

Yes, Stuart, that's why I never use Rich Text Editor...a Luddite to the end I suppose.

Best wishes (the other Steve) so.it.goes.2512 13:51, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE: DJs
I like what you did. The stuff I put on was merely meant as a taster, although I agree with you that anything comprehensive is a bit of a daunting task.

I think getting the ball rolling with a brief intro and how their work as a DJ was specifically related to that of JP. I'll keep going with the TOTP entries and add stuff to the DJ pages as and when it occurs to me.

Removing stub status
Hi Steve

I've added some show info to several show pages, thus unstubbing them. But when trying to unstub the shows in the edit category section at the bottom, that category is not there to be deleted. Is there some hidden menu somewhere to do this?

Cheers

Weatherman22 01:34, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Deletion request
Hi Steve

It looks like the show of the 18th October 1979 has been duplicated into 16th October 1979. Would you mind deleting?

Thanks

Stuart

128kbps shows
They are on Phil's server. He's having trouble with the IPs changing and his router so I'm waiting to hear back about a new link. If he doesn't manage to fix it I can upload these shows myself.

Cheers

Stuart

mantoid on Peel Mailing List

Weatherman22 08:11, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Link?
You found a working link?

Weatherman22 13:14, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

page
Wow! Just that very minute I was trying to create a new page for my tapes! I'm not sure it's worked - I created a category by adding a new category to one of my mixtape pages then pretended to go to a page called that, expecting to be presented with an invitation to create such a page. Anyway it is very late here in the UK I will try to sort it out once the sun comes up. (Maybe even overhead)

Well I decideid to bring my new Nakamichi with me so maybe I will create a few more 1983/1984 mixtapes over the next few weeks

Stuart

Help - I'm blocked
Hi Steve,

Tried to update a page today, but have been informed I'm blocked, but I have no idea why. Is this something you can help with ?

Thanks,

Pad (postscriptxyz)

Message contents :

Your User name or IP address has been blocked.

This block was made by Charitwo. Reason given: spam Start of block: 16:26, January 26, 2010 Expiry of block: 16:26, July 26,2010 Intended blockee: 222.166.160.172 Block ID: #5090 Current IP address: 222.166.160.172

You can contact Charitwo or another Administrator to discuss the block.

Now OK
Steve,

Whatever the problem was seems to have been resolved. Bit disconcerting at the time, but no worries.

Pad

30 October 2001
Steve,

You seem to the correct. Looks like a typo on my part as the file is named correctly and Ken's bible concurs. Hope it's not too difficult to change.

Pad

5 and 10 December 1979
Hello Steve

I am trying to listen to the programmes from 5 and 10 December 1979 as on both of these John Peel played my 16 year old self a request, but can't access them though they seem to be available on the calendar.

Can you help?87.81.168.146 16:05, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for your message. Sorry, can't help you on those shows - yet. If you look toward the bottom of the 1979 page, you'll see that those ones are down as upcoming from the 400 Box and haven't been shared yet. Haven't checked and not sure on who has/had those tapes, but it may be a request to the Peel Mailing List may unearth something. Good luck!

Cheers,

Steve W 03:53, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Shows desperately wanted!
Hi Steve,

RazorBladeAlley here and very new to this online chat thingy (I'm just a little bit old school!). My John Peel Show/Session list is my list of a big bag of cassettes I've been dreading going through for a while but finally got around to it yesterday. I still have a huge number of tapes, mostly BBC R1 'In Concert' programmes from the 1980s but all the Peel recordings are listed here (except the Strange fruit stuff I've bought and artist collections that include their BBC recordings).

The reason I have put these up for everyone is in the somewhat vain hope of finding in return two shows where I had the honour of meeting JP and sitting in the studio watching him do his show, notably Friday 27th October and Saturday 28th October 1995 at the Camden Live Festival. I especially want these because at the end of the Solar Race set on 27th Peely said something like 'thanks to Tyrone and Sean from South Wales for pogoing down the front dutring that set' (I'm Tyrone).

Chris Lycett was there also and plied me with coffee and pie and chips from over the road, really great guy too. Peely was in the World's End pub on the Friday evening and I was intent on finding him and saying hello after being an avid listener for 16 years up to that point. What I expected was to just buy him a beer and 5 mniutes of chat and then leave the poor fella alone, what happened was he kept us chatting for about an hour and a half, telling us stories about East German punks he met in Berlin and their stories (later included on a Channel 4 documentary about the Autobahn he presented I think). Such generosity! he only left us because his producer dragged him away to set up ready for the gig (which was fantastic, Zion Train especially).

Then, ehile waiting outside at about 1am he came round the corner and said 'will you be here tomorrow? We'll be having beers from about 2 if you fancy it.' What could I say! Bunked off work and spent the day chatting with him before the 5-7pm show outside the World's End in a porta-studio - one of the best experiences of my life. So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me get the two shows - something wonderful to tell the grandchildren!

Cheers

Ty

Hi buddy, had another think about that contribution and realised you were right. It's vandalism.

so.it.goes.2512 05:49, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Front Page
Hi Steve

The Blog posts might raise awareness - it is currently really hard to follow conversations on the wiki as you have to flip between users' talk pages. Though I suppose most conversations take place on the Mailing List.

The Online Updates section could be expanded to use content from other blogspot sites sites such as http://fruitierthanthou.blogspot.com and http://fadesinslowly.blogspot.com/ Every so often I manually scour these sites for something new so some sort of feed like you get in blog sites would be good, so that we are instantly aware of any new "content"! There's a wee piece on Section 25 on the fruitier blog just now as well as a session link.

Stuart Weatherman22 19:23, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Happy Easter Steve!

I like the new front page proposal: much tidier than before. I would be tempted to include a link to the Captain Crawl search engine, as I've found a whole scad of links via there (mainly to Peel sessions, but the Tearjerkers session was from the show, so led to the page I made). I don't think, IMHO, there would be much point in having a link to the Perfumed Garden, as he hasn't posted anything in nearly a year, and has long gaps, although it's certainly of interest archivally.

All the best

so.it.goes.2512 06:51, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

New front page is good - I must admit I don't usually access via front page I just start typing in the address bar and it is usually the 1991 page that pops up so I just go there. But I will now add the front page to the links bar to check for updates etc.

The only thing I notice is that there is quite a lot of white space at the top - more noticeable the wider the IE Window and the higher res screen you have. My monitor is 1920x1080 so there is a lot of white space. Actual content doesn't appear until probably 2/3rd the way down the page and that will be the case for most resolutions, and maybe for 1024x768 it will be off the bottom!.

I wonder if the intro and the JP pic could be put into one of the columns, so that the other column will show near the top of the page.

Cheers

Stuart

Weatherman22 11:00, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Test page
Hi Steve, yes I like that a lot! Somehow having the video on the left seems better and as Stuart says less white space at the top. Excellent work!

All the best

Steve

so.it.goes.2512 16:36, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve

Must be getting late in your parts now.

I don't mind, I quite like the pastel blocks on the first test page and they help compartmentalise the sections, and it might be easier for the eye to jump to various sections but then again the clean look is good overall to look at.

Stuart

btw not looking good as far as Popguns T-shirt spotting goes, most of the shows in that period are partial. Tantalisingly some of the shows are labelled Part1 Part 2 ets but there is only one part.

Weatherman22 17:56, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Front Page
White & grey seems to be my favourite: Test new front page white and grey

Dr Mango

Yeah, that's cool with me too Steve! Thanks for the message.

so.it.goes.2512 03:10, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve!

I changed the #29 in 1995 from Flaming Lips to Flaming Stars, cause Flaming Lips have no song titled "Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye" and by searching i found out to be Flaming Stars.

Are you the author of (http://festive50.wordpress.com)? If so, great blog!

I'm researching Peel's festive 50's to make a list to (http://rateyourmusic.com).

Cheers!

Ivoliveira 17:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)ivoliveira

Not pulling my weight - will try harder :-)
Hi Steve

Don't know how to leave you a private note so here is as good a place as any Just a quick note to let you know I am still loving every aspect of the Wiki and listening non stop pretty much to downloaded Peel shows.

I have slacked off on transcribing and need to get back on it, but with work, kids graduating high school and college it has been just crazy (yeah yeah yeah)

Anyway wanted to let you know how much all the work here is appreciated

In school report terms - Peter Must Try Harder

Cheers, Peter

PeterG 18:42, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hi again,

Changed #9 in 2002.

It wasn't for sure Mark E. Smith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWGNsM1dP8g

Ivoliveira 22:48, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

my festive fifty list
Just completed the Festive Fifty list!!!

Thanks a lot for this source.

Hope you like it!

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/ivoliveira/john_peels_festive_50

16:25, May 2, 2010 (UTC)Ivoliveira

Virgin In-Store edits
Hi Steve,

Just added picture number three..... I've made a bit of a dogs breakfast of all the editing but I think I've put them back together OK. Feel free to correct any formatting that I may have cocked up ;-) It's interesting to see how these three shows have crawled around the internet since I shared them on a torrent site (UK Nova if I recall correctly) about four years ago. As you can see from the tape labels the shows were numbered so there are at least ten out there somewhere. I was working at the Virgin store in Sheffield just after these had been "aired" and I blagged these three tapes, sadly I lost contact with the guys from the shop and of course we never thought to try and make copies. I've got a few shows from 2001 that I recorded to disc from DAB, there are quite a few digital squawks scattered through the files but I seem to remember they are still very listenable. When I get a bit more time I'll dig them out. Is there a preferred method of sharing?

Regards, Haze

Coolcats58 07:58, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

27 March 2001
Hi Steve,

I've just added info for 27 March 2001, just wanted to confirm that it's formatted OK. Any suggestions gratefully received.

Cheers, Haze

Coolcats58 10:12, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

27 March 2001
I just got confirmation of my membership of the mailing list so I'll be getting active over there soon.

My broadband connection is pretty good (8 meg) but unfortunately the upload speed is limited so it took nearly an hour to get the file up on Rapidshare. Then for some reason it fell over so I had to upload it all over again!!!!

I have just been listening to 05 April 1977 - the tracklisting is done and the file will go up tomorrow.....

Haze

Coolcats58 20:43, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve,

Unfortunately digital noise was a feature of many of my recordings back then. DAB was in its infancy and I lived at the bottom of a hill that blocked out most of the signal. I'd get perfect sound (albeit 128kbs) for ages and then a couple of seconds of chaos.

The 1977 show is up, the tape runs slightly fast but other than that it's fine. I was a regular Peel listener and consequently customer in our local Virgin store (which is how I ended up working there), The Table and Iggy Pop went on my shopping list from this show.

Haze

Coolcats58 08:59, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words on my list.

It was a pleasure to make it. And thanks for the link here too!

Ivoliveira 19:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

You'll never walk alone
Brilliant idea for a wiki entry. Excellent work!

Maybe next we should do a "Liverpool FC" page to document all the shows where he mentions watching matches, results, cup triumphs (and flops) and the various comings and going of managers and players...

Dr Mango 14:37, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

YNWA / Liverpool
Rather than a Liverpool FC page, perhaps a general "football" page would be better (split into sections) as Peel also talks about Ipswich and England on occasions.

Dr Mango

World Service Tapes
Steve,

Is there a minimum quality for recordings to be posted? I have some (not sure how many!) tapes of the JP World Service show recorded from Radio Scotland between 1999-2003 which I'm trying to digitise (don't think I've got the settings on the kit right yet). It's not a complete set, they were recorded when I was working night shifts and depended on me being near the radio at the start of the show.

Were the WS shows the same as the BFBS shows?

Cheers,

Fraser

Hi Fraser,

Many thanks for your message. I don't think there's particular minimum quality, but obviously I'm sure people would appreciate it as good as possible. I'm not really any kind of expert on digital transfers, but I'm sure User:So.it.goes.2512 or User:Weatherman22 would be happy to help you out on getting the best out of your original recordings. Just click on the links for their names to get to their pages.

Not so many WS shows available at the moment, but I for one would love to hear the ones you have as it was the only way I used to be able to listen to Peel for many years overseas (on rubbish shortwave) prior to the start of R1 shows being streamed online.

The WS shows were different to the BFBS ones, although I think there was a lot of overlap in the tracks chosen for overseas shows recorded in any particular week, which all seemed to draw heavily on what he was playing at the time on R1 (although no sessions of course).

One thing I might recommend for sharing shows if you haven't done so yet is joining the Peel Mailing List for sharing shows and stuff. This site is a kind of outgrowth of the group and there's a lot of crossover.

Hope you see this. If you get an account here (free!), it would be easy to reply direct to your talk page.

Cheers,

Steve W 16:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Dexy
Hi,

I had a look for a Dexy's page and it didn't show up, I think it's the result of not capitalizing every word.

We can delete the one I began, it repeats the info already on the main page.

I've began stubs for the other radio DJz that hosted TOTP with Peel and will keep on with that while I have time.

Dirty job but someone had to...
I finally got round to beginning the Simon Bates, Tony Blackburn and Dave Lee Travis pages... quite hard to remain objective. Have a look and let me know how we should proceed RE: standard formatting and sections to include.

BTW, there's a well worth listening to Guardian audio interview with Blackburn that I've linked to on his page. Dare I admit a bit of new found respect!

Request for Peel tapes/cdrs
Hi If anyone has any unwanted tapes of Peel shows from 1980-1988 (inclusive), I would be very grateful to take them off your hands. Alternatively cdr Alternatively cdr copies would also be welcome. If you can help, please email me at: 'cantsec@yahoo.co.uk'. Many thanks.

Hi, Not sure about tapes, but please check out Years on the Calendar section on the top left of every page. There's a few links on the date pages in blue. Incidentally, if you have old recordings of old shows, would be great to have information on them up here. Or better yet, hear the shows if you are willing to share them. Please see the notice at the bottom of the front page of this site. Steve W 04:02, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Pink Floyd - Meddle
Hi I saw your ad in Private eye and remembered I had a cassette tape of a live session by Pink Floyd recorded in the late sixties (I think). I haven't listened to it for many years and have no means of playing it now. My recollection is the session took up most or even all of an hour long Sounds of the Sixties, introduced by John Peel. If it's of any interest let me know.

Hi,

Not sure if you're writing to the person immediately above on this page, but this is my talk page so let me answer on the Pink Floyd cassette... I was wondering if either of the following shows sounds familiar (click on the date):


 * 19 July 1970
 * 12 October 1971

If so, I think they are both pretty common as bootlegs. They sound similar to your description.

Cheers,

Steve W 13:09, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

PS Haven't seen any ad in Private Eye. Anyone know any more about that?

Re: 400 box, footy
Hi Steve.

Yeah, as you've probably gathered from my updates to the artists pages, I've been working my way through my 400 box backlog. I've done half of the 23 tapes now. My original intention was to share them as I went along, but I got on a bit of a roll with the ripping and just carried on. Some of the tapes sound very good indeed, but a couple are ropey AM recordings. As you'll eventually hear.

Good work on the footy pages. I look forward to seeing the results. Dr Mango 13:00, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ripper
Hi Steve,

I am making some progress with my tapes - started some ripping today. Shows are sounding pretty good and this Wiki is helping me work out what I have. It's a great resource, lots of work has gone in to this already I see. Great idea. I am pleasantly surprised to see I can help fill in some holes in the ranks of shows that are already out there. I have set up a 'Shoebox' to keep track.

Just got a couple of suggestions to add to the New Tracklisting Template that you might consider. As a newbie it has taken me a while to work out how to add peel quotes, and I can see there are a few different styles have been used. Maybe add an example quote to the template? eg


 * JP: "Please add Peel quotes here."

The other is thing is to add the notes section, it is already on some pages. I was trying to figure this out to add sessions to an otherwise blank page, then add a ref link back to the show they were mentioned on. That's confusing, know what I mean? It was not working, so I added a notes section.

These might make it easier to get started?

All the best.

Hangthedj 21:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Peel On Record Covers: new page
Hi Steve, check it out and let me know what you think! Glad to have your input. BTW, did you see the page I wrote on Sessions That Never Happened? I thought it would hang together better as a connected article rather than just another list.

take care

so.it.goes.2512 08:38, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Wednesday morning
Hi Steve, thanks for your appreciation of my sessions and Tom Waits pages! Also, I love what you've done with the Football page; I had no idea whn I started it that the subject could be explored in so much detail. One thing I neglected to address was his idolatry of Kenny Dalglish, maybe worth another page? (Let's not talk about Manchester City....)

As for the Planet Peel thing, of course it would be nice to have pages for all the foreign shows, but lack of information is a problem. With Eins, Nachtexpress and BFBS, I have plenty of material to draw on, but the others will have to wait (will we ever get any more VPRO shows? You never know.)

With regard to Eins, one major plus is that all the shows were numbered, something I've neglected to mention thus far, but I'll fix that in a minute. I've got plenty to be getting on with: as I said on the group, Carsten sent me another three DVDs of BFBS the other day, to add to the four I already have, plus the ongoing Isector project...plenty to keep me busy!

It's a lot cooler here now, it's been raining almost continuously for the last two days, which is a blessed relief. It's (what would have been) JP's 71st birthday soon, and I have a special from BFBS to commemorate. Good times.

All the best, mate

Steve

Weird formatting...
Hi Steve... am trying to add a new show to the list of FF broadcasts on the 1979 Festive Fifty page. Something weird is going on and I end up with multiple bullets or a dashed box around the whole thing. Am giving up in disgust on this page... is this something you could clean up? Thanks, Ray b 00:17, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Beta Wikia
Hi Steve(s). Just wondered if you had signed up to the Beta Wikia, to check out how the new mandatory skin will affect peel.wikia.com? Weatherman22 23:15, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

skin
Main impact will be the new topbar, the restrictions to the number of menus and no nesting of menus will mean the current sidebar will have to be reorganised to prevent large portions of the wiki becoming inaccessible. Weatherman22 06:53, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, running beta in IE and original skin in Firefox. Main other impact is the fixed width of the screen - good in some ways but only 640 pixels for main part of window, so I can see many of the track listings wrapping. The year pages with the track listings in the spreadsheet only show a few columns, and the calendar widget doesn't distinguish between dates where a show date page exists or not. Am reporting issues as I see them so hopefully they will be taken on board.

thanks for message
Hi again, Good to know details. Hope it's not going to be too much of a drag. Decided I should apply to be a tester too, so will see if they take me onboard. Cheers, Steve W 07:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Test front page
Hi Steve

Not so sure about the b/w pic but the main thing is, I'm not sure how you have done the columns differently to the original page, becuase they look similar under Monaco, but under the beta (to become compulsory), the text in the test front page runs underneath the picture and the right hand column.

Weatherman22 10:21, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Beta
I think when we migrate there will be much bigger issues and redesigns necessary. For example, the sidebar links are replaced by a topbar which will only have 4 menus, each of which may only have 7 items, with no further submenus allowed.Weatherman22 22:42, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Alright Steve!
Good to help out mate, i'm glad to.

I've already done a questionaire about my life around the JP show, but i'll be brief here:

tuned in randomly around late 1990, as there were no stations playing hip hop [radio 1 had just let go of jeff young, who used to do a frday show of hip hoip called 'national fresh']. I accidentally discovered JP whilst scanning through with the dial. I started by just recording the hip hop reacks, but after a while became overwhelmed by the other music [i was quite impressionable, as i was 16 at the time]. So basically all the way until 2004 [although not tuning as regularly as I did the previous decade].

I have a bout 40-50 tapes, but they're all compilations, i'm afraid, not complete shows. And in some cases some tapes are compilations spanning a few years! I'd still be more than happy to digitize 'em, and about 90% of them have tracklistings. I would be happy for some guidance as to how they should be presented on the wiki site though [formatting etc].

Are there still more tapes coming, as i can't help thinking there must be more people out there that have complete shows on tape that don't know about this place?

One last thing: what do I do about track id's? As I have shows where I don't know the title of certain tracks. Is there a forum thread to help with these things?

Anyway, that's enough fer now,

speak soon mate!

Baz.

Navigation
Yes these pages still appear in the new skin. A beta tester has managed to edit the css file to get his wiki to full screen width again, though you need to be a site admin to test that. No word on you being a beta tester yet? Weatherman22 20:27, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Changes
Hi Steve

Thanks for the message about the changes you're making, but I think I'll leave this in your capable hands since I don't feel there's anything constructive I could add at this stage. Keep up the good work!

BTW, did you see my page on Patti Smith? Any thoughts?

TC

S

Phil's Might Database
Hi Steve,

I was wondering if Phil's database contains listings for shows that haven't been posted. If 'yes', then this is good news for me when I attempt to piece together dates for songs on my mixtapes.

One proble, I am told I don't have permission. This is what the page says:

We're sorry, peter.tron@googlemail.com does not have permission to access this spreadsheet. You are signed in as peter.tron@googlemail.com, but that email address doesn't have permission to access this spreadsheet. (Sign in as a different user or request access to this document)

Any ideas? Do I have to sign in with my yahoo email address? Hopefully there's a way around this, as I am already a member of the newsgroup [ah, technical stuff!].

Cheers!

Baz.

Phil's Might Database
Hi Steve,

I was wondering if Phil's database contains listings for shows that haven't been posted. If 'yes', then this is good news for me when I attempt to piece together dates for songs on my mixtapes.

One problem, I am told I don't have permission. This is what the page says:

We're sorry, peter.tron@googlemail.com does not have permission to access this spreadsheet. You are signed in as peter.tron@googlemail.com, but that email address doesn't have permission to access this spreadsheet. (Sign in as a different user or request access to this document)

Any ideas? Do I have to sign in with my yahoo email address? Hopefully there's a way around this, as I am already a member of the newsgroup [ah, technical stuff!].

Cheers!

Baz.

BBC World Service show (1998) will share
Hi Steve, love the page. I'm quite new to this, but I recently started ripping some of my old shows from tape. I have a quality copy of the following show from, I think, 1998. Can you tell me if it's already archived, and the exact date? It aired on BBC World Service, I used to awake at 3:30 am to tape it here in The States, just loved the music and the banter.

Track listing:

"Monkey On Your Back" - Clinic

"Beatles" - Penny Lane

"The Narkoman Theme" - Richard Bartz

"Scare Bull" - The Fall (Masquerade Remix EP)

"War Parade" - Hellnation

"Finger Lickin' Chicken" - The Radars

"Sundowners 90 Mile Pilot" - Wingtip Sloat

"Made For Each Other"- Trembling Blue Stars

"Vapor Dub"- Decoder (27:32 total)

Again, I think from 1998, but google as I may, I can't find the exact week. I'd love to share it, let me know if you'd like it & where to upload it.

Cthulhu42 07:00, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Cthulhu42

Re: BBC World Service show (1998) will share
I posted a new tracklisting for this, with file attached:

http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1998_(%3F)

Not sure if I ought link this to any other Peel wikia pages, again, I'm new to this. One of you vets should straighten this out as needed. I'll look back in and learn from your edits.

Cthulhu42 08:33, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve,

Thank you very much for your message.

I am working on the other 2 unknown from Stuart's early sept.83. The one with the lyrics 'Come on...' is really very difficult because the voice has a strange accent, maybe not british. I may be wrong, but I think it is american, which broadens the search. It may also be from continental Europe, eg Belgium, trying to sound 'british' etc. This may be ridiculous, but could it be australian? Anyway, the whole track sounds to me as if not coming from UK. Also, comparing the voice to the No 1 track of the tape/unknown-Pleasure units/, both voices are almost identical, Track 1 also having strange accent eg the r as if said by an american. Again I may be wrong but that may be one and the same band.

As for the BBC WS show, I am working on it too, I will try not to make something amateurish. Youtube is convenient because the 28-min show will always be either partially recorded or only 1-2-3 tracks etc, and is immediately accessible. Even now when I listen to Radio 1 shows, nothing compares to the 30 min 'blast' evry week; Peel didn't even have time to speak.

I think I will have some questions later so sorry and thank you beforehand.

Regards,

Boris Rangelov 11:22, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

WS
HI Steve,

Thank you for making that page, you know far better than me what to do.

Whenever I have some info I will edit (or some mistake etc).

I am working on all unknown tracks, just some will take longer: I am loosing ground in periods before 1981 and after 1995.

Regards,

Boris Rangelov 11:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Spotify links
Hi Steve

I don't know if you noticed that in my last couple of track listings I was experimenting with links to Spotify versions of the tracks. The first time you click on such a link, it leads to a small spotify holding page, where you can decide whether you want to directly load songs links straight into Spotify in future, and if you don't have it installed, give you an option to get it.

I don't think you can embed an icon in the track listing so I just chose a roughly spot-shaped character in the standard font.

What do you think of the idea?

See the first track in 20 November 1985 for an example.

Stuart Weatherman22 11:46, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

23rd September 1994
Hi Steve,

Just hoping you might be able to re-up the above file. I think this adds a previously missing jigsaw piece in my JP history, as I have recently [yesterday!] acquired one of my old JP mixtapes that I haven't heard since 1995, and I seem to have a few tracks from the above show, but not all. I have transferred the tape to digital form, and I was going about trying to identify the track titles [inlay missing!]. I know most of the tracks and was going about finding the dates of the corresponding shows where those tracks came from.

I was also splitting the whole show into individual tacks for myself, but I thought you put files up as whole shows without track marks inserted, so would you prefer it if I done that when I come to upload my tapes to the wikia site?

Cheers,

Baz.

Phil's Might Database
Hi Steve,

I sent you a msg about this before, as I couldn't get access to the pages. I can't find the file for the excel spreadsh

eet to download. Could you send it to me via email?

I've been to this page, and when I click the '1994' link, I get the following message:

We're sorry, peter.tron@googlemail.com does not have permission to access this spreadsheet. You are signed in as peter.tron@googlemail.com, but that email address doesn't have permission to access this spreadsheet. (Sign in as a different user or request access to this document)

cheers!

Baz.

Phil's Might Database
Hi Steve,

I sent you a msg about this before, as I couldn't get access to the pages. I can't find the file for the excel spreadsh

eet to download. Could you send it to me via email?

I've been to this page, and when I click the '1994' link, I get the following message:

We're sorry, peter.tron@googlemail.com does not have permission to access this spreadsheet. You are signed in as peter.tron@googlemail.com, but that email address doesn't have permission to access this spreadsheet. (Sign in as a different user or request access to this document)

cheers!

Baz.

chang page name?
Hi Steve,

I was wondering is it possible to change the name of a page. I need to add a date to my Sept. 87 show, but is this edit possible?

Boris Rangelov 13:46, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve,

Thank you very much. I prefer not to move the page, let it remain like this.

Unknown will always be my favourite category, things become difficult when a date is wrong or a band is not british.

Regards,

Boris Rangelov 15:34, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Mixtape pages
With my own mixtapes I set a threshold of about 4 or 5 tracks from a single show - below that I didn't bother with a date page, above I did.

I was just listening to that mixtape in the car and realised that it did seem to contain complete reasonably-lengthed portions of each show so thought I would give them their own page.

I'd done this last year with some of the Best Of mixtapes. Just another of my Wiki workstreams!

Stuart

Weatherman22 17:42, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

max-dat
Hi Steve,

I think this is a good place to share my peel collection.

I started to record mix tapes from BFBS via cable-radio on Tape in 1985, but only the tunes I liked most.

Since 1992 I recorded complete BFBS shows via cable on DAT.

Since 1995 also BBC Radio 1 and BBC WC via satellite on DAT, but it was too much (too expensive) to archive the complete shows, so I picked up only the dance tunes (Reggae, House, Africa,...) from DAT to DAT (lossless). Every snipped has an intro and an outro by John Peel, to identify the song.

Since 1999 I recorded the complete show (BBC R1) directly to hard disk via satellite, and also started to digitize my old tapes and DAT to mp3. Now I have some questions:

I will share the complete shows together with pictures of my handwritten playlists at the mooo server, there are always two shows in one file (4 hour DAT at 32 kHz short play) included the news. The playlists are mostly unreadable with incorrect written names of the artists and the song names. I am sorry for that, but I am from Germany and my English is not very good. But I think, it’s a good starting point and the community can help to rewrite and complete the playlists.

Are you also interested in the mix-dat with dance music?

And finally...please can you help me to promote the shows on Peel wikia, that the others can find them. I started today to upload on mooo dat-max.

Thank you,

Maximilian

Max-dat 20:29, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

menu sidebar
Hi Steve,

I just spoke to stuart about getting my main mixtape page added to the rest of the mixtape enties in the menu sidebar on the left side of the page. I get the impression that this will probably happen nearer the time when wiki perform a site overhaul soon [is that right? It was just something Stuart said to me.].

Cheers!

Baz.Peter tron 14:13, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

JP Photos
Hi Steve,

where is a good place for JP pics, as I wanted to put them in on the shows when there playing in itunes.

cheers!

Baz.

Peter tron 21:58, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

30 Nov 1979
Hi Steve.

A page for 30 November 1979 (a Friday) has erroneously been created on here for an imaginary 400 Box tape. The tape in question is T187, which has the end of the show from 27 November 1979 on it, followed by an extract from 30 July 1979 (not November). At some point in the cataloguing, July became November. Either way, can you delete that page? Ta.

Dr Mango 16:27, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

mixtapes
Hi Steve,

I though maybe creating a 'mixtapes' section on a year page and adding links to all the mixtapes that covered that particular year might be a good idea. I just wanted to know what you thought about it first.

Baz.

Re: Four Brothers
Steve

It's my pleasure.

You may have noticed I also tried to tidy up Four Brothers entries on other show pages. However, wikia prevented me doing so for the 16 March 1991 - it clearly didn't like the Bongwater album title! Is this something you could do?

Cheers,

Pad

Calendar on year pages
Hi Steve

When you get time, would you mind posting the code in MediaWiki:Common.css that allows the Calendar dates to turn blue if there is such a page, and stay red if not, to MediaWiki:Wikia.css. Looks like its the stuff at the bottom of common.css

Currently they are all blue on the new skin.

Stuart

Weatherman22 11:48, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve,

I am Rangelov but if I am logged in I can't do anything, even send messages, so I am sending this as unregistered.

I deleted the cookies and temporary files (from IE 'safety' button) but still the same. When I am unregistered, I can edit for example.

Would you please send me any info on my page

Thank you.

Boris

Red!
is making my eyes do weird things especially on widescreens where there is a lot of red.

Weatherman22 18:13, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Navigation
No probs Steve!

I'm just working on the max-dat tapes atm [26 April 1992, to be exact]. There are some tagging problems, either the mp3 is not tagged with the correct date, or the jpeg of the tape inlay has the wrong date pencilled in at the top, but i'm getting there!.

P.S:-I can't seem to edit the title of the page i'm working on [' 26 April 1992']. I want to add 'BFBS' to the title of the page, but can for the life of me figure out how, as 'edit page' does not allow you to edit the main title of the page itself.

Baz.

Peter tron 19:17, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

That's sorted now, Steve. Cheers!

P.S:-you mentioned sending that Phil excel doc 2 weeks back, could you still send it through? I still have a couple of entries on my mixtape pages that are driving me nuts, asa I don't know whate dates they are. Mind you, if Phil's excel doc has the same date info for shows as Lorcans, then there would be no need, as I have Lorcan's page bookmarked.

cheers!

Baz. Peter tron 21:11, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Preferences for side space
Well my real preference would be real estate we could use, but in the interests of compatibility with low resolution Smartphones :) and Wikia's ToS I know we're not allowed that.

Have a look at the other Wikis in those big new menus at the top of our page, some of the examples in there don't look bad at all. For example the Fallout wiki under gaming, having some sort of wallpaper filling up the dead space seems better than a block of colour.

A watermarked version of the cover of Ken's book? Some pictures of tapes and records? Pictures of bands? The latter two should be easy enough in terms of finding royalty-free images.

Stuart

Weatherman22 23:48, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

formatting & spam protection filter issue
Hi Steve,

I done most of the tracklist formatting for the BFBS show i was working on, but:

1-i keep getting a 'spam protection' warning come up when I attempt to place a direct URL link to the Max-dat BFBS file in the mooo server folder. I looked at your entry, and your link is 'tinyurl' etc. It was getting late so I thought i had better ask you about that stuff.

2-On a minor formatting note, I can't seem to perform the correct indentation for my edit to the main max-dat page [where it shows 'Dat_002_JP-BFBS-920426+920503.mp3'. i shunted it so it is in the same place as your line began but when I save the page and look at it, it defaults back. Like I said, a minor prob, that one..

g'night,

Baz. Peter tron 04:26, October 9, 2010 (UTC)